#Pro Rouge the Bat

[flingmetothemoon]

Zeena: Who are you?

Rouge: I'm you, but better written~😘

May I ask how Zeena is a stereotype?

Her personality is “girl”.

The D6 are all walking stereotypes, but one thing is the “crazy” one whose personality is “violent and unhinged”, which can be pretty fun, but “girl” is pretty offensive for obvious reason (so is “fat”, by the way). It’s called the Smurfette Principle, and it’s the assumption that being a man is the default, so you can have other personalities, but being a woman is all there is to it.

Zeena is vain, cares more about her appearance than helping Zavok (she would have stayed in the base happily painting her nails if Zavok didn’t tell her that he considered her pretty enough for the job), and the worst thing she can say about Sonic is that he’s “a cockroach with terrible fashion sense”. On top of this, her design is by far the most humanoid and attractive of the 6 - can’t have a monstrious girl, can we? Some other quotes:

"Now, you wouldn't hurt a lady, would you?" 

"The last time we met you ruined my nail art. Now I have to reapply a whole new coat."

“You're gonna pay for that! ... as soon as my nails dry.”

"Gotta go. Call me!"

"What? No flowers?"

"I can't believe I lost to a boy!"

Everything she says revolves around being female. Sure, she’s evil like the others, that's a personality trait I guess, but... can you imagine her as a boy? The others would work as women because, as flat as they are, their personalities don’t revolve around their gender. (in fact female Zor and female Zazz would be pretty funny)

The sad thing is that I like how she resembles a chameleon. She’s green, has one horn like Espio, and a thin curled tail. She could have been written as manipulative, underhanded and a compulsive liar, to go with the chameleon motif. And sure, “manipulative woman” is also a stereotype, but I’d gladly take that over “MUH NAILS” :\

[jorrated]

i have this idea for a 'fankid' that eggman attempted to make a project shadow 2 but with added sonic dna in the future. it didnt work out so he just kinda let it there and the gang finds it

they immediately put it on someone's doorstep and never think about it ever again

[libbytwq]

What if Prime characters met their og characters?

i enjoyed drawing these hehe

+ a bonus wholesome comic where tails meets nine :)

APRIL FOOLS

its angst :')

[silvers-starrway]

FORGOT TO POST THESE TOO LOL. You can also have some lore dump for the bottom two under the cut!!

The solver acts in a similar vein to the metal virus/cyber corruption in that Sonic is actively fighting it from the start but unlike how the metal virus behaves running will only cause him to overheat more. He's okay friends with Rouge and Knuckles at the start of the adventure. During the events of EP 4 he goes full solver mode and what snaps him out of it is the fact that he nearly attacks his friends. This sends him into a bit of a spiral because holy shit, he is losing control of himself. Also, EP 4 is the first time he consumes another drone and that REALLY fucks him up.

Oh, and MDAU!Sonic doesn't have any of the experience of canon Sonic when it comes to dealing with world ending scenarios so he's under a lot of stress once he fully starts to lose control to the solver.

[she-anemone]

[sweetkooky]

Rouge!! 💎

[flingmetothemoon]

Unpopular hot takes incoming

The more I think about this as an Amy, Rouge, and (Especially huge one for her) Tikal fan, the more I think Knuckles is just an overall pointless, needless and easily replaceable character for 90% of the plotlines. (Sorry Knuckles fans) I think the only real reason Knuckles even existed in the first place is to serve as a plot device to foreshadow the ancient Echidna Clan — Who in turn plays a big and important role in how Angel Island came about and highlights the important roles the Master Emerald and the Chaos Emeralds plays as the world's most important power sources in the Sonic series and the CHAOTIC consequences of misusing their powers for selfish purposes — And to show that echidnas still exists in the present day and you know what? His purpose made sense and worked at that time. But now that his purpose has finished, it's time to let someone else have a chance to shine.

I think a great character who can carry Knuckles' torch is someone who is also an echidna and in touch with the Master Emerald LONG before he was, yet has more reason to take the Master Emerald seriously and could use new friends and adventures after everything she's been through and probably would've made a better Chaos Energy sensor and Emerald Shard hunter considering she and Chaos were sealed in the Emerald for 5,000+ years! (Imagine the amount of chaos energy that would've been absorbed in them for that long) Of course the character I'm talking about is none other than Tikal. (And no, just because she was unconscious in the Emerald for that long and now has spiritual powers doesn't mean she's now a dead ghost. I mean is Shadow a dead ghost too just because he was unconscious in a capsule for 50 years and can use new powers? XD)

And another unpopular opinion I have regarding Knuckles is I think the ship between him and Rouge — Quite bluntly — NEEDS TO DIE ALREADY! Even in my younger years, I've never found the thought of Knuckles and Rouge being a ship appealing because Knuckles and Rouge were intended to have a rival dynamic like Sonic/Shadow and Tails/Eggman and I think it works better that way because you can think of more creative ways to play with their respective character traits and abilities when thinking of a fanfic story of Rouge trying out creative sneaky ways to steal the M.E. and Knuckles fighting her to get it back, if there was no cheesy friendly lovey feelings between them going on, it would be easier to see their raw combat on full display without them worrying about "Oh no but s/he's so cute and hot, what if I hurt him/er too hard? :C". Don't forget to mention that their lifestyles and moral values are almost vastly incompatible to make them work as an actual long-term couple beyond just short-term embarrassing flirting. Knuckles is a Master Emerald guardian just learning about his ancestry and Rouge is a "treasure hunter" (Which I think is just her sugarcoated way of referring herself as a jewel thief XD) and a double agent for Eggman and the president.

But yeah, even as a rivalry, I could think of other rivalries Rouge would have I personally would find more interesting and engaging with basis beyond just physical prowess and the Master Emerald, so thanks for bringing up the Amy/Rouge parallels and how Rouge is in a sense the dark equivalent of "The Heart"! (If the hearts in her design and bombs and stuff aren't obvious enough) But I also came up with a Rouge/Tikal (And Chaos to a degree) rivalry as I believe would make an excellent challenge for their values they stand for. For these two, Rouge is like Pachacamac, but serves as an even bigger challenge because she's more stealthier, more outwardly attractive, and better at putting up an innocent front to throw them off guard. For Rouge, she gets to meet someone who's actually seen with their own eyes the serious consequences of stealing superpower gems out of greed. On the other hand, that rivalry can also highlight how Rouge is different from Pachacamac: She is not maliciously evil and perhaps that could leave room to go into detail on why — Out of all of the pretty shiny gems in the world — Does Rouge specifically come after the M.E. and the Chaos Emeralds. Maybe she wants to be it's guardian and is jealous of Knuckles because he's already one. Maybe Shadow's sacrifice touched her heart and inspired her to use the Emeralds to protect those she cares about — Not for her own selfish desires.

But what do I know? I'm not a corporate slave, so I guess I'm just too dumb to understand how Knuckles + Classic Trio are actually so based and why money + nostalgia trumps storytelling.

Knuckles is a Protagonist in Sonic Adventure 2, but why?

So I’ve asked this before, but I’ve never understood Knuckles’ role in Sonic Adventure 2. He is set up as a protagonist (read we see his story and point of view) but his story doesn’t tie into the narrative at all or even serve a purpose for him as a character. Now why do I say that? Well, lets’s look at the story of the game and then Knuckles’ story.

Sonic Adventure 2′s story focuses on the Legacy of Gerald and how it affects the characters. Sonic is affected by his similarity to Shadow and eventually Eggman threatening the world. Tails and Amy are Sonic’s friends who care for him most and get involved with Tails in the long running understanding Eggman more as a scientist, and Amy revealing before anyone else that Shadow is not as ruthless as he appears due to him not breaking out of her hug, something he hasn’t experienced since before the Ark was raided. On the villain side you have Eggman trying to exploit his grandfather’s research and learning secrets about him he never knew which makes him reflect on himself. Shadow is obviously a character trying to fulfill his duty while facing his role both in the story and the conflict of his love for Maria and how that all ties into Gerald’s plan to destroy the world in revenge. Then you have Rouge who’s primary purpose is to tie the government conspiracy instigated by G.U.N together and question Shadow’s existence and purpose while also playing Eggman in case he get’s too dangerous. But what a bout Knuckles?

Well, first thing to take note of is he isn’t even mentioned above at all which should get your attention if you remember the game. His story begins with him breaking the Master Emerald to prevent Eggman from stealing and he soon finds himself competing with Rouge to collect the shards. By the end of the game once it’s restored he uses it’s power to stop the Ark’s final descent to Earth and saves the world. It’s all pretty awesome, except for the small detail that none of it happened.

Now I know that line will probably miff a number of Knuckles fans, especially since it obviously happened and we played it. But the thing is, Knuckles roles are all met with indifference in the main plot. The big revelation in his story that Rouge is good is defeated just by playing the villain side which you are supposed to do anyway which reveals that she is fundamentally good despite her moral failings when you discover she is there for the benefit of the world and stopping Eggman’s latest scheme while also uncovering for the president just how deep G.U.Ns corruption runs and the whole Gerald conspiracy. Her act of charity to Knuckles showing that she is good isn’t necessary and is completely superfluous in the Dark Story. Even her love of Gems is all ready covered in Security Hall making Knuckles’ interactions with her valueless and redundant. So what about Eggman and stealing the Master Emerald? Same thing, but worse. From Eggman’s point of view it never even happens. His entire story is digging up his grandfather’s legacy for his own ends and he never interacts with Knuckles until the final story. In other words, the starting point for Knuckles’ story never happens in Sonic Adventure 2′s plot. that’s absurd.

Obviously though Knuckles’ role in the finale still has to be addressed. If he wasn’t there to cancel out the power of the Chaos Emeralds then they couldn’t have stopped the planetary drop of the Ark. The problem there is that Knuckle’s action is immediately canceled and made a complete waste, nor is it a natural conclusion to his story in the game. He goes through everything he does, and does not reflect anywhere without being invalidated within the actual plot. if he was removed from the game the main narrative would not suffer for it in the least. And since his story does nothing for his character or any other either there is nothing lost for him in the end either.

So yes, as Knuckles has his own story in Sonic Adventure 2 which is about him and his POV he is a protagonist of Sonic Adventure 2. That is a fact and cannot be disputed. However, as the main plot has no bearing on his point of view and his POV has no bearing on the plot or other characters I have to ask a very simple question; why is Knuckles a protagonist of Sonic Adventure 2 if the his story and the Main story both do nothing for him and he does nothing for the other? I’ve asked it before and been told that supposedly Shiro Maekawa had always intended Knuckles to be one of the game’s protagonist, but his role as the game is presented provides no answers as to why. The fact that he can be removed and the only thing that needs to change is why the Bio Lizard warps outside of the Ark speaks volumes about how unnecessary he is. As a result I just can’t see it. Why is he one of Sonic Adventure 2′s protagonist? His story is useless to both him and the plot. If not for the end of Heroes further tying Rouge and Knuckles together he doesn’t even get new characters to interact with and expand his character. Of course as that was only really explored in Sonic X rather than the games even that does nothing for Knuckles in the end. He serves no purpose in Sonic Adventure 2 and really should have never been left in when the finalized story had no meaningful use or interaction with him. Yet, he is in the game, and he is one of the game’s protagonist and I am still baffled by it to this day.

[puppygirlpencil]

And it's Day 4 for Sonic Fashion Week!

[yourfavisproendo]

Hello back again!! I'm not sure if two requests in one ask are allowed but

Spinel from Steven Universe is a pro-endo traumagenic system

Rouge the bat from STH is a pro-endo traumagenic system!

Spinel from Steven Universe is a pro-endo traumagenic system!

Rouge the Bat is a pro-endo traumagenic system!

[lebloodymoonsystem]

Being a Rouge fictive I’m both terrified of people that like me and flattered by people that like me and all I can do is sit here like this - Rouge

[fandomproshipedits]

Various basic Rouge the Bat icons also in honor of our other new alter

[lacroixblood]

[yourfaveusesao3]

Rouge The Bat from Sonic The Hedgehog uses AO3!

Requested by anon

[therisingsun777]

My take on Sonic Pairings

Hi, not new to the fandom, but new to interacting with other people in the fandom. I figured I'd bring up a point of discussion, just to see what other people think, I guess. If you're not interested, you won't have to click to read on. Also there's spoilers for Frontiers; if you haven't finished the first island, don't click

Right, so the first thing I want to bring up, is my own personal belief that Sonic is ace. To me it just makes the most sense. Outside of some cartoons, I don't think there's ever been a point where Sonic's been interested in somebody that he meets. There were certainly a lot of scenes with Elise in '06, but I never caught the vibe that he was romantically interested in her to any extent. And I'm ninety percent sure that we can all agree the kiss was forced. Even in Frontiers, it seemed entirely obvious that he saw Amy as a really good friend, but not much else.

Secondly, Shadow. I don't believe that Shadow is ace, but as to his romantic inclinations, I'm not entirely certain I can lean either way. I feel like Shadow, as a character, was heavily traumatized at a very early age (Read: Straight After Birth), that he could lean either way. Personally I ship him with Rouge though :).

I don't really think about Tails, but that's because I still see him as a literal child, so...

Amy is next, and I personally see her as bi; my favorite Ship with her character is Blaize, due to how well the two would work out in my mind. Amy is quite often sentimental, whilst Blaize is more down-to-Earth, and I feel like, together, they'd compliment the other quite well (I kinda feel like the end of the First Island was her accepting that a relationship between her and Sonic wasn't going to happen; at least that's the vibe I got). There's also Surge, but that's not a character I know enough about, it's just the vibe I've gotten from the very few panels I've seen (most of them without the original text, so I know basically zero)

Feel free to disagree with me, or something; I really wanna know what other people think. I just haven't gotten to interact with people in the fandom at all, and I'm curious.

Also: I don't know enough about Silver's character to form any opinions about him. So if you have some take on him, I'd love to hear it!

[goth-pod]

Goth-Pod Ep 5: Gotham Troubles

Welcome Back! Listening to you send ins, Juda Boone talks about things by Gothamites, for Gothamites!

[goth-pod is a fictional in-universe podcast based on the DC comics universe. Juda Boone is an original fictional character, not based on any real person or known comic book character.]

Transcript under the cut

Hello everyone and welcome to Goth-Pods special trials and troubles episode! I’m an indie theater’s take on the ghost of Christmas Present- and your host, Juda Boone. 

We're looking at your submitted trademark Gotham problems. So without my usual ramblings, lets get to business

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For our first submission username Trekkle brought up a good debate: Subway vs Bus: The Subway is safer, since buses can get hit during rogue attacks, but if you're stuck underground there's a chance of a killer croc attack and also the birds ride the roof. 

Fantastic points, Trekkle! Thank you for writing in. I don't know exactly what you mean by the birds riding the roof, though. Do you mean Robin? Because I have been on the tram while a fight was happening between Robin and The Penguin on top. Of course, I missed most of it because I had my headphones in. Noise cancellation has its pros and cons in Gotham.  

There’s no set answer on this one, I don’t think. You kind of have to pay attention to what Rouges are active the way you pay attention to the weather. Cloudy with a 70% chance of a Riddler scheme? Maybe take the Buses, since they’re not connected to a maze-like system like  the subways are. But maybe it's sweater weather with a possible freeze-over because Victor Fries broke out two nights ago and is due for a showy return. Then an underground bunker with cushy seats doesn’t sound too bad.

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From Clexx we have: I'm new to Gotham (full ride scholarship, thank you Mr. Wayne): Why does everyone hate Superman? I tried to get answers from a friend and they called Superman a Homewrecker. Is there an infidelity scandal around Superman I don’t know about??

Oh wow. First of all, congratulations on the scholarship! I'm assuming you're attending Gotham U? Just be sure you get a proper Rogue-proof gas mask. Yes there is a difference. It’ll probably be covered in your Orientation though, so onto the main question. 

To the Homewrecker comment.. oh I didn’t think it’d come to this. Okay, there's this thing in Gotham. Clexx, have you ever heard of Bruceman? Ask your friend about it, they’ll probably love to explain more. Basically it is a Real-Person based Ship on Gotham’s two protectors, Bruce Wayne and Batman. One watching over the day, the other the night. 

This is another Topic that might take all episodes to explain, so to keep it short: People see Superman and Batman’s relationship- professional, platonic, romantic, or however they define it- as a threat to Bruceman, the number one Gotham Ship. Godspeed if you get between our beloved prettyboy himbo and our odd night-stalking cryptid. 

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From Allison: My cousin is visiting and I want to show them why I stay in Gotham. Where can we go for 1) a low level rogue attack (for Bat sighting), and 2) where can we go for a Wayne sighting. (They think Dick Grayson is hotter then Brucie [eye-rolling emoji])

For the first one, I think any part of our public transport system will do, as we discussed before. The tricky part is knowing when it’s going to be low-level or if your cousin will be joining you in a shelter-in-place lockdown.

For a Wayne sighting, unfortunately it’s harder to say these days. Bruce Wayne has made several statements on how he’s spending less time at the company in order to focus on bonding with his new son, Jason. I hate to disappoint, but right now might not be the time for celebrity sight-seeing. Maybe take a day trip to Bludhaven! Your cousin might enjoy the chance to convince you instead. 

Thank you all for writing in and for joining us on this special episode! If we didn’t get to your submission, head over to our socials to see if we replied there. I’m Juda, you’re listening to Goth-Pod

Until then, Newcomers, visiting cousins, locals on the bus, Stay safe, Gotham.

[toasty-self-shipping]

I’m so glad everyone can agree that zootopia is straight up ass because the original concept of the movie was actually interesting but got scrapped because it was to “dark” so why not make it a pro crop movie to brainwashed children into joining the police force

and also as a furry Judy and nick are not attractive and no one in the furry community would fuck them like the only group of people who finds them hot are the mfs who makes fun of furrys but will constantly talk about how hot rouge the bat is